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in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points in mid-september, tied with bill clinton by the end of october, though clinton eventually won. a former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african american, latino, and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod told fox, "public polls are widely variant in their sampling and methodology so it's hard to case when they all point in one direction they're all wrong, but we are planning for a close race as we always have." another democratic strategist offered this assessment -- >> the race isn't over. look, this thing can move back and forth three or four times between now and november 6th. if i'm romney, you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past 10 where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average of the comebacks was roughly 5%. in some cases it was a debate that moved the needle. harris? >> mike, tha
in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points in mid-september, tied with bill clinton by the end of october, though clinton eventually won. a former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african american, latino, and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod told fox, "public polls are widely variant in their...
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leaving the heavy lifting yet again today to former president bill clinton in new hampshire, who made the case this is a choice about the next four years. >> the economy is not fixed. i am telling you, nobody can fix this much damage in four years. but the president's economic plan is better in the short run, better in the long run. >> reporter: the president made the opposite case in 2009. vowing to get the economy fixed in three years or this would be in his words a one-term proposition. which is why senator marco rubio told fox he believes the president will be vulnerable tonight if romney focuses on this point. >> we can't afford four more years of barack obama. we can barely aforfour more months. if we have four more years of president obama we can't wait four years for the economy to start growing. >> reporter: that may be resonating as the race tightening again in latest nbc news, "wall street journal" poll. romney is trailing by three points, within the margin of error. 46% of registered voters approve of the president's handling of the economy. 51% disapprove. top aides say t
leaving the heavy lifting yet again today to former president bill clinton in new hampshire, who made the case this is a choice about the next four years. >> the economy is not fixed. i am telling you, nobody can fix this much damage in four years. but the president's economic plan is better in the short run, better in the long run. >> reporter: the president made the opposite case in 2009. vowing to get the economy fixed in three years or this would be in his words a one-term...
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bill clinton in '96, there were 25 million americans on food stamps in the clinton administration. after the welfare work rules were tightened up, 17 million. so it dropped 8 million. 33% drop. the case loads plummeted. 50% in the welfare arena after congress, newt gingrich and bill clinton -- >> it's wonderful. >> bill: we all agree that what they did in '96 was good for the country, for the poor, for everybody. we all agree? >> actually for poor people, yes. >> bill: so why on earth would he want to water that down? he being president obama? why would you want to do that? >> because states within to experiment -- >> bill: wait, wait. who cares whether states want to experiment? if the federal law is working for the good of the country. what do i care whether delaware or california wants to do something differently? why should i care? >> because over time, none of these federal or state or local, either laws work well. i send an intern out to these job centers to see what kinds of help they gave. they all just directed her to handouts. she had to struggle to get help. >> bill: if
bill clinton in '96, there were 25 million americans on food stamps in the clinton administration. after the welfare work rules were tightened up, 17 million. so it dropped 8 million. 33% drop. the case loads plummeted. 50% in the welfare arena after congress, newt gingrich and bill clinton -- >> it's wonderful. >> bill: we all agree that what they did in '96 was good for the country, for the poor, for everybody. we all agree? >> actually for poor people, yes. >> bill:...
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bill clinton would talk anybody, be working out a deal. this president doesn't have those relationships. now we see the situation on what's going on in banghazi. two dead, navy seals. an ambassador. we haven't had an ambassador killed in 30 years. another person is dead. all of these embassies, consulates, have been raided, flags ripped down and burned. we're finding this president wasn't engaged with arab leaders either. >> well, "the new york times" had a story just a couple days ago saying exactly that. and this is the difficulty at home. for some -- i mean, take the president's own party. harry reid, the democrat. the leader of the senate, the second most powerful democrat in washington. he goes down to the white house and to wake the president up he has to use his chief of staff to tell him, i'm disappointed in you, the president, in the oval office, that we didn't have a fallback plan for all the shenanigan insist 2012. 2012 -- shenanigans in 2011. reed is leaving with his chief of staff in the car, and he says, i'm glad, you did a g
bill clinton would talk anybody, be working out a deal. this president doesn't have those relationships. now we see the situation on what's going on in banghazi. two dead, navy seals. an ambassador. we haven't had an ambassador killed in 30 years. another person is dead. all of these embassies, consulates, have been raided, flags ripped down and burned. we're finding this president wasn't engaged with arab leaders either. >> well, "the new york times" had a story just a couple...
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obama, you're not bill clinton. bill: what did charles think. syndicated column tonight charles krauthammer said there was a clear winner. >> romney won big. he won by two touchdowns. when he steps on the statement gives him stature. when he performs like romney did it changes the mow men tim. bill: krauthammer went on to say one debate won't win the election but it might change the course. martha: vice president joe biden says governor romney did not go far enough in explaining his plans specifically to the american people. >> governor romney laid out a fundamentally different philosophy. he called for a tax plan that would these massive cuts for the wealthy but refused to explain how copay for them without raising tax on middle class families. instead he just denied how big these tax cuts were. martha: the romney campaign said they did lay out specific he will ets how they would pay for those. biden will debate paul ryan in danville, kentucky next thursday. bill: a former new york city mayor republican candidate rudy giuliani said the presiden
obama, you're not bill clinton. bill: what did charles think. syndicated column tonight charles krauthammer said there was a clear winner. >> romney won big. he won by two touchdowns. when he steps on the statement gives him stature. when he performs like romney did it changes the mow men tim. bill: krauthammer went on to say one debate won't win the election but it might change the course. martha: vice president joe biden says governor romney did not go far enough in explaining his plans...
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you're not going to win votes spending the day with bill clinton. you need to be out and energizing your base. and right now, to be honest with you, the republican party base is not, in fact, energized, and the new attack, the new track that mitt romney's taking needs to energize his base and move forward. find a base and stay on it. megyn: that's so interesting. look at this list of polls. this is by a guy at the weekly standard that shows just the latest polling among independents, okay? between romney and obama. and just look at the bottom average. it's 43-43. and all these polls are just razor tight as the men do among independent voters, i mean, it's razor thin. so your point is well taken that these two guys need to be focused on rallying their base since the independents right now seem evenly split. >> absolutely right. you've got to get your base on track to make sure today show up on election day. and remember, for mitt romney he's got to remember those reagan democrats. what effects them? jobs, health care, all the other issues that we tal
you're not going to win votes spending the day with bill clinton. you need to be out and energizing your base. and right now, to be honest with you, the republican party base is not, in fact, energized, and the new attack, the new track that mitt romney's taking needs to energize his base and move forward. find a base and stay on it. megyn: that's so interesting. look at this list of polls. this is by a guy at the weekly standard that shows just the latest polling among independents, okay?...
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i was called a racist, bill clinton was called a racist. i have seen bill talk to you and others saying donald trump is a good guy. we have a good relationship and he is a good guy. i believe the hate tried he had and maybe doesn't have any more for obama was unbelievable but people are afraid to to take obama on. i don't know what it is. >> this is amazing four years later he saved the democratic convention for obama. he said in 2008 they played the race card with me and they planned it from the beginning. >> he felt that very strongly. >> you feel he did that fto you? >> he did. you mention certain things it's racist. any time you criticize obama whether it's trump or anybody else you get the ratest thing going. it's very unfair, not nice. i enjoyed, i must tell you. i love thinking about running. as you know i was doing incredibly well. people liked what i said whether it was about china or opec ripping us off or whether it was about obama. i wish he were a great president. i am a republican. if he were the greatest president i would be
i was called a racist, bill clinton was called a racist. i have seen bill talk to you and others saying donald trump is a good guy. we have a good relationship and he is a good guy. i believe the hate tried he had and maybe doesn't have any more for obama was unbelievable but people are afraid to to take obama on. i don't know what it is. >> this is amazing four years later he saved the democratic convention for obama. he said in 2008 they played the race card with me and they planned it...
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take a listen to bill clinton. >> the economy is not fixed. i'm telling you nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. but the president's economic plan is better in the short run, better in the long run and a vision of we're all in this together is a heck of a lot better than you're on your own. there is no you're on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good we're all in this together strategy. [cheers and applause] none, not one. the challenge for the president tonight though is back in early 2009 he said if he didn't turn around the economy for n. three years it would be a one-term proposition. that's the problem when you are incouple again you have got a record that's going to it be under microscope not just from the moderator but mitt romney as well, shep. >> shepard: it seems he has a strategy of his own for going after mitt romney. >> when you talk about the president's advisors he says this is all policy. the president could be on the defensive talking about jobs, talking about debt. what they are
take a listen to bill clinton. >> the economy is not fixed. i'm telling you nobody could have fixed this much damage in four years. but the president's economic plan is better in the short run, better in the long run and a vision of we're all in this together is a heck of a lot better than you're on your own. there is no you're on your own country in the world succeeding like those who have a good we're all in this together strategy. [cheers and applause] none, not one. the challenge for...
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. >> greg: i find interesting is on morning joe this morning, bill clinton weighed in on the refereeing. he is the expert on blown calls, because he made so many mistakes. it's his administration. he made a lot of mistakes. >> bob: dribble, dribble, dribble, pass the ball to you, buddy. you got it now. this is now becoming a to be a farce. don't you think it's now time for this to get resolved and the officials? >> eric: yeah. last week we were on record saying they did a good job. make the deal. your contract straight. this is another issue where unions get away with -- take everything away from what matters. >> andrea: are we surprised they made bad calls? because the news today is they came from the lingerie league. used to have the bra straps strapped. >> greg: that is harder. >> bob: do you notice how much greg and dana were paying attention to this segment? >> dana: i was laughing. >> bob: writing notes back and forth. i do think you have now come from division ii schools, in college. trying to do a game faster and much more complicated. they will change -- what troy aikman called
. >> greg: i find interesting is on morning joe this morning, bill clinton weighed in on the refereeing. he is the expert on blown calls, because he made so many mistakes. it's his administration. he made a lot of mistakes. >> bob: dribble, dribble, dribble, pass the ball to you, buddy. you got it now. this is now becoming a to be a farce. don't you think it's now time for this to get resolved and the officials? >> eric: yeah. last week we were on record saying they did a good...
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clinton did during peace negotiations in 2000. the unnamed official says, "president clinton made us feel like he had our back at camp david. we felt he'd be there if things went bad. president obama doesn't give us the same sense that he'd be there." interesting added part of this story that article was tweeted out by the official press office. today, the president said through the chief spokesperson what many others in the administration have already acknowledged, that the deadly attack against u.s. mission in benghazi was, in fact, terrorism. thaw want specifics on what was known before the attack and about the perpetrators afterwards. here is catherine herridge. >> in addition to branding the benghazi attack as terrorism at the u.n. today, secretary of state hillary clinton acknowledged suspected involvement of aqim. >> they are working with other extremists to undermined the transition underway in north africa as we saw in benghazi. >> 15 days after the attack on the consulate, the administration official claimed it was a dem
clinton did during peace negotiations in 2000. the unnamed official says, "president clinton made us feel like he had our back at camp david. we felt he'd be there if things went bad. president obama doesn't give us the same sense that he'd be there." interesting added part of this story that article was tweeted out by the official press office. today, the president said through the chief spokesperson what many others in the administration have already acknowledged, that the deadly...
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in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points and died with bill clinton but october though clinton eventually won. former pollster questioning the assumption made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino an young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> they said the public poll are varying in the sampling and methodology so it's hard to make the case when they point in one direction, they're all wrong. but we are planning for a close race as we always have. >> another democratic strategist offered this assessment. >> this isn't over. it can move back and forth three and four times between now and november 6. if i'm romney you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past ten where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average was 5%. in some cases a debate moved the needle. bret? >> bret: thanks. today, missouri republican senate candidate todd akin confirmed he was arrested in pro-life demonstration 25 years ago and he is defending a comment th
in 1992, the incumbent president was down nine points and died with bill clinton but october though clinton eventually won. former pollster questioning the assumption made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino an young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> they said the public poll are varying in the sampling and methodology so it's hard to make the case when they point in one direction, they're all wrong....
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. >> if a president of either party, i don't care whether it was jimmy carter or bill clinton or george bush or ronald reagan or george h.w. bush had had a terrorist incident and gotten on an airplane after saying something and flown off to a fund raisener las vegas, they would have been crucified. it would have been, it should have been barack -- equivalent for barack obama of george bush's flying over katrina moment. >> but nothing was said at all. and nothing will be said. >> with us now is mr. caddell. so you think this is an organized press suppression of this story? >> well, organized -- whether it's organized is a straight conspiracy, everyone is in on it and doing it and it's a purposeful conscious effort to suppress news that might help obama. we have gone down a slippery slope here. look, bill, we have had liberal bias or bias in the press for a long time. for many years. but it's gotten worse starting in 2008. now we have a press that actively engages in the re-election. putting out a narrative that romney is a loser, you know running polls, they are using like telling n.i.v.
. >> if a president of either party, i don't care whether it was jimmy carter or bill clinton or george bush or ronald reagan or george h.w. bush had had a terrorist incident and gotten on an airplane after saying something and flown off to a fund raisener las vegas, they would have been crucified. it would have been, it should have been barack -- equivalent for barack obama of george bush's flying over katrina moment. >> but nothing was said at all. and nothing will be said....
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so interesting to hear bill clinton there saying no president could have made the economy better. well the problem is the economy has goten worse. the report this week growth in the second quarter was not 1.7% but 1.3%. in other words the economy is going down at the end of barack obama's term. i think the american people are asking themselves, why is this happening to us? why after four years is the american economy still weakening and that's what i think they're waiting for mitt romney to explain to them. jenna: so why are the polls then shifting, at least looking a little brighter for the president this week, if at the same time we're getting this data on the economy? >> you know, that's the one thing we're all talking about, jenna, is polls pulling away from romney in places like ohio. i'll tell you based on my anecdotal evidence and some of the e-mails i get from readers who say, i think i'm going to vote for obama, that vote is not strong or locked in. some of those numbers that you guys were putting up just a little bit ago about the economy, and the barack obama and romney
so interesting to hear bill clinton there saying no president could have made the economy better. well the problem is the economy has goten worse. the report this week growth in the second quarter was not 1.7% but 1.3%. in other words the economy is going down at the end of barack obama's term. i think the american people are asking themselves, why is this happening to us? why after four years is the american economy still weakening and that's what i think they're waiting for mitt romney to...
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the democratic convention moved the needle in this race because bill clinton went out for 45 minutes and made a case on substance largely against mitt romney and he made it. and romney's 47% remark moved the needle. there is a narrow lead for president obama. so romney needs to make the case affirmatively for his program and why it's better than the president's. this is not just a referendum. this was the romney theory going in. he needs to prove that he's a better choice for the next four years. >> people are still persuadable. 15% is a pretty big number. if you look at undecided voters in most polls it's around 6%. but rich is right. people will pay attention to this and they will look for something maybe to make them change their minds for people who aren't completely thrilled about their choice which actually i think in both parties it's most people. most people aren't that excited about their choice. but it's mostly the independent voters they will have to focus on. bill: you make the case this debate is really for them. the persuadables. >> it's not just for them. it's for thos
the democratic convention moved the needle in this race because bill clinton went out for 45 minutes and made a case on substance largely against mitt romney and he made it. and romney's 47% remark moved the needle. there is a narrow lead for president obama. so romney needs to make the case affirmatively for his program and why it's better than the president's. this is not just a referendum. this was the romney theory going in. he needs to prove that he's a better choice for the next four...
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you set it up to a point where bill clinton said, no one could fix i. but i think if there was a republican in office, we would hear this is a crisis, unemployment over 8%, and if you take the nine million people who dropped out of the job market since inauguration day, it'd be closer to 12%. the fact that we're not seeing this is disingenuous and a disservice to the general public. >> yeah, it's really bad, and partly it's the policies. we're doing a lot of things similar to what happened in japan, and there's a joke that used to go around japan, what's the difference between japan and taiwan, at least one company goes bust in taiwan every day, and in japan that wasn't happening -- alisyn: because of stimulus? >> no, they were propping up bad companies. alisyn: bailouts. >> in this country we've got banks that are going bust not because of bad account, we've got crazy accounting policies where i'm as tall as charles. [laughter] i'd like to be, but i'm not. and also we've got bailouts of companies that didn't need bailing out, they just needed to go tru
you set it up to a point where bill clinton said, no one could fix i. but i think if there was a republican in office, we would hear this is a crisis, unemployment over 8%, and if you take the nine million people who dropped out of the job market since inauguration day, it'd be closer to 12%. the fact that we're not seeing this is disingenuous and a disservice to the general public. >> yeah, it's really bad, and partly it's the policies. we're doing a lot of things similar to what...
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bush took it every day and i believe that bill clinton took it every day. this president thinks he's smarter than those guys and he doesn't have to engage in the discussion. that's the most important half hour of the day for a president who has to protect the security of the united states. >> gretchen: it's interesting because when you ask people what is the most important role of the president of the united states, that's usually the answer that's given by historians, to protect this nation. so in that essence, john sununu probably not going to get much criticism for that statement, but should he go to these things in person? turns out now he is going to all the intel briefings since it came to light that he wasn't. >> brian: i like -- yesterday the republicans are saying he's not being direct in saying the difference between the two. he said flat out. it was a terrorist attack. al-qaeda assassinated our diplomat. that's an act of terror. the white house does not want to admit it and it is trouble to go a group of senators who got together and not only wan
bush took it every day and i believe that bill clinton took it every day. this president thinks he's smarter than those guys and he doesn't have to engage in the discussion. that's the most important half hour of the day for a president who has to protect the security of the united states. >> gretchen: it's interesting because when you ask people what is the most important role of the president of the united states, that's usually the answer that's given by historians, to protect this...
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. >> the middle class was buried by the policies of romney and ryan supported as bill clinton said all they're suggesting when he's asked about this and he's the best, he made the comment, he said, what they're proposing is bush economic policies on steroids. >> now, the president also visited here in nevada, one of his local campaign offices with volunteers. he said the sessions have been so intense that it feels like homework to him, almost like cramming for a final exam. >> bill: republicans are not giving up. six electoral votes. everyone is important, right, ed? >> that's right. some of mitt romney's key surrogate have been here shadowing the president while he does debate prep. yesterday it was ann romney. i saw matt romney was appearing with marco rubio, one of the rising stars from florida. he's here to help turn out the hispanic vote in navy nevada. i sat down with him for an exclusive one on one. he said republicans should calm down about the polls. he believes that mitt romney's going to have a strong debate and he said the message should be very simple. take a listen. >> my
. >> the middle class was buried by the policies of romney and ryan supported as bill clinton said all they're suggesting when he's asked about this and he's the best, he made the comment, he said, what they're proposing is bush economic policies on steroids. >> now, the president also visited here in nevada, one of his local campaign offices with volunteers. he said the sessions have been so intense that it feels like homework to him, almost like cramming for a final exam. >>...
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. >> bill clinton used wag the platform. >> how do you advice. not to put your finger. it is a question of emphasis. and al gore did something risky and it back fired. he walked off his podium and invaded governor bush's speech. he was prepared for al gore to approach him. al gore had done that in the prevous primary. how close do they have to be prepared. you have to be comfortable and prepared for everything . so part of it is, not only what you are saying but how you are reacting and looking and you try to practice those and anticipate. >> is there such a thing as being over prepared and you are not able to be spontanous. this is uncontrolled environment. i try to say you can't control the minutes, but have in your head what it is that you want to do and practice how you do different things and you don't have a script. >> it is three agencies of that are gone when i am there. congress and. what is the third one. >> maximizing dralm a. >> it is what we all remember . we listen for lines. and it a cap stone to what reagan won. it was what. >> i will not make age the is
. >> bill clinton used wag the platform. >> how do you advice. not to put your finger. it is a question of emphasis. and al gore did something risky and it back fired. he walked off his podium and invaded governor bush's speech. he was prepared for al gore to approach him. al gore had done that in the prevous primary. how close do they have to be prepared. you have to be comfortable and prepared for everything . so part of it is, not only what you are saying but how you are reacting...
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clinton has to address those questions at some point. do you think she has been a good secretary of state by the way? >> it's very hard to see what she has accomplished. she obviously is working herself ragged. she sex extremely tired all the time from what one sees on tv. she is working terribly hard in a difficult situation. i think she is a fine woman, but i think she very badly screwed up in this case and she is the boss. the buck stops with her at the foreign service and the state department. if she doesn't at least offer to resign, something is wrong. i think she should offer possibly mr. obama should say you made a mistake let's go on and try to do better in the future. >> shepard: she would never take resignation. the u.n. ambassador. >> so much worse than the watergate coverup that's a joke. >> bill: that's what a lot of the obama forces are saying this is a coverup because the administration did not want to admit that its anti-terror policies are weak and it has a presidential component to it, election component to it whose tho
clinton has to address those questions at some point. do you think she has been a good secretary of state by the way? >> it's very hard to see what she has accomplished. she obviously is working herself ragged. she sex extremely tired all the time from what one sees on tv. she is working terribly hard in a difficult situation. i think she is a fine woman, but i think she very badly screwed up in this case and she is the boss. the buck stops with her at the foreign service and the state...
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was bill clinton right during the democratic national convention when he said no one, no president, could have had this type of recovery and dealt with it, republican or democrat. >>guest: the problem with that line that this is the best we can do, always played the clips, that was president obama, and vice president biden and so many of the economists who told us four years ago we are going to get out of this mess and we will have a very robust recovery. i just shows the clip and president obama said he would be a one-termer if things are not turned around. have we turned things around? it is dicey. if you look at what happened this week with the g.d.p. numbers that came out, very weak, 1.3 percent growth. that is a third of where we should be. we have $5 trillion in debt. the deficit has not been cut in half. instead, it has actually doubled. when president came in it was $500 billion and now it is $1 trillion. the theme of the re-election campaign could be promises made, promises broken. >> the argument is this recession is different than any we have seen before. in context, we will pu
was bill clinton right during the democratic national convention when he said no one, no president, could have had this type of recovery and dealt with it, republican or democrat. >>guest: the problem with that line that this is the best we can do, always played the clips, that was president obama, and vice president biden and so many of the economists who told us four years ago we are going to get out of this mess and we will have a very robust recovery. i just shows the clip and...
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. >> bill: all right, allight. whatever they'reeporting it to be, and poor hillary clinton is running around to b getting anhing under control. we havtohink abo that.discussio. next up, factor exclusive. we'll talk tohe man who pr foris republican primary debates, right b >> bill: impact segment, president obama nevada, mi romney in colorado. both preppin f the big debate morr night. remember when newt gingrich clked the governo in the south carolina debate last spring, romney came back strong in florida. the man whohelped prepare t deb, brett o'donnell joins us now. youeally know this turf because you worked for john mccain when he r ain barak a in 2008 and n in the primary season,ou worked for tt romney. let's assess the governor's weas debater first. strengths? >> wl, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, hecan deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on messand on offense. as you saw in the debates in flora ag when heot g offense, the governor was very effective. when he leans int
. >> bill: all right, allight. whatever they'reeporting it to be, and poor hillary clinton is running around to b getting anhing under control. we havtohink abo that.discussio. next up, factor exclusive. we'll talk tohe man who pr foris republican primary debates, right b >> bill: impact segment, president obama nevada, mi romney in colorado. both preppin f the big debate morr night. remember when newt gingrich clked the governo in the south carolina debate last spring, romney came...
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they are not the gifted bill clinton kind. so what -- you tell me whether when we listen to these two guys wednesday night it will be how they convince us who has a better poll policy or it will be a moment like avoiding a tbaf, or like al gore seeing. >> we have a greater history of negative things happening in debates that change the trajectory of races. so don't screw up. that's rule number one. but rule number two, if you are mitt romney when you go into this debate you need to change the trajectory of this. you can't do it by being a human fact checker. but what you can do is remember you are talking to tens of millions of american voters that night and whatever the question is, whatever obama says, mitt romney has to make sure he puts a simple clear statement of his views and his beliefs about the future of the united states on the record. it's his chance to put it on the record so he can't screw around. >> i would recommend him not telling too many jokes. he needs to be very careful. >> this economy is no laughing matte
they are not the gifted bill clinton kind. so what -- you tell me whether when we listen to these two guys wednesday night it will be how they convince us who has a better poll policy or it will be a moment like avoiding a tbaf, or like al gore seeing. >> we have a greater history of negative things happening in debates that change the trajectory of races. so don't screw up. that's rule number one. but rule number two, if you are mitt romney when you go into this debate you need to change...
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in 1992 incumbent president was down nine points in mid-september and was tied with bill clinton by the end of october. the clinton eventually won. former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod said they widely vary so when they all pointed in one direction, they are all wrong. but we are planning for a close race as we always have. another democratic strategist offered this assessment. >> the race isn't over. this can move back three or four times between now and november 6th. >> romney you try to create that momentum. >> of the eight presidential races where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, average of comebacks was roughly 35% and in some cases it was the debate that moved the needle. >> gregg: as a reminder we are daig days away from that first presidential debate. we'll have live coverage of the event hosted by megyn kelly and bret baier. that is
in 1992 incumbent president was down nine points in mid-september and was tied with bill clinton by the end of october. the clinton eventually won. former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod said they widely vary so when they all pointed in one direction,...
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. >> brian: here is the question i would like, mitt romney, how would you -- if bill clinton couldn't have turned this economy around in four years, even he couldn't turn it around in four years what, could you have done to turn it around in four years? see if he comes back with specifics or if he comes back with rhetoric. can mitt romney comment on why he has offshore accounts? can mitt romney thoroughly and adequately explain the 47% comment which has been used for the other side in ads and can he expand on his math on the economy? if he can do that in a way in which we can all understand without generality, i think he could have momentum. if not, then president obama -- >> steve: they've been working on the lines, first in vermont and now out in colorado as well. it's interesting, though, to hear how people on the left and the white house have been down playing the president's performance. >> brian: you think so? >> steve: just a little bit. remember over the last four, five years, we've been told barak obama brack, one of the whyest political speakers of all time, now we're expect
. >> brian: here is the question i would like, mitt romney, how would you -- if bill clinton couldn't have turned this economy around in four years, even he couldn't turn it around in four years what, could you have done to turn it around in four years? see if he comes back with specifics or if he comes back with rhetoric. can mitt romney comment on why he has offshore accounts? can mitt romney thoroughly and adequately explain the 47% comment which has been used for the other side in ads...
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that isn't what bill clinton did. that's not what ronald reagan did. and so i think it really exposed the president for the person who thinks that all he had to do was go it alone. >> gretchen: the interesting thing is, four years ago for you when you were facing that hope and change rhetoric, there was no record to go up against. now mitt romney had the ability to say that hope and change thing didn't really work out in the eyes of many americans and ironically, it was mitt romney last night talking about how he's reached across the aisle in massachusetts. i believe he said that he had an 82% democratic legislature there and he still passed things by working together. do you think that resonates with the people who have not made up their mind yet? >> i can't tell you the number of people, gretchen, that come up to me and say, why can't you guys, you guys, sit down and work together? they know what the fiscal cliff is. they know what kind of shape we're in. and romney's answer last night i thought was perfect. he'll sit down and talk to anybody. but he
that isn't what bill clinton did. that's not what ronald reagan did. and so i think it really exposed the president for the person who thinks that all he had to do was go it alone. >> gretchen: the interesting thing is, four years ago for you when you were facing that hope and change rhetoric, there was no record to go up against. now mitt romney had the ability to say that hope and change thing didn't really work out in the eyes of many americans and ironically, it was mitt romney last...
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martha: doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host. both fox news contributors. good to have you this morning. hi, there. is that true, doug? i mean that they're skewing, that they're showing higher turnout, those polls are assuming a higher democratic turnout now than in '08 when we know it was huge? >> yes, that is correct. that is part of the story and only part of the story. martha: okay. >> the obama lead is a real one. it is not a lead that would disappear if the polls were weighted in a slightly different direction. but that being said, in the state of ohio, for example, where they have a plus 8 democratic skew, in 2004 it, was a plus 5 republican skew. now i don't expect that we're going to go back as far as we did in '04, martha, but i do think that a 3, 4, 5, point democratic bulk would be right, that means the obama lead woo come down 3, 4, 5 points. there is some bias. obama is still ahead nonetheless. martha: lots to talk about here. monica, there are those who would look at this situa
martha: doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host. both fox news contributors. good to have you this morning. hi, there. is that true, doug? i mean that they're skewing, that they're showing higher turnout, those polls are assuming a higher democratic turnout now than in '08 when we know it was huge? >> yes, that is correct. that is part of the story and only part of the story. martha: okay. >> the obama lead is a real one. it is...
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clinton have been framing this race by saying it's not about the last four years, it's a choice about the next four years. take a listen to the early part of the debate and how the president framed it. >> the question here tonight is not where we've been, but where we're going. governor romney has a perspective that says if we cut taxes, skewed toward the wealthy and rollback regulations that we'll be better off. i've got a different view. i think we've got to invest in education and training. i think it's important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america. that we change our tax code to make sure that we are helping small businesses and companies that are investing here in the united states. >> reporter: what we saw after the president framed that way, though, framed it that way is that mitt romney punched back and said, wait a second you've been president for four years, why haven't you done some of that. it didn't appear that the president had been challenged in that kind of a direct way in a longtime and didn't really counter punch on those points. he's going to hav
clinton have been framing this race by saying it's not about the last four years, it's a choice about the next four years. take a listen to the early part of the debate and how the president framed it. >> the question here tonight is not where we've been, but where we're going. governor romney has a perspective that says if we cut taxes, skewed toward the wealthy and rollback regulations that we'll be better off. i've got a different view. i think we've got to invest in education and...
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first heed you is say about the kay men islands bill and hillary clinton claim $200,000 of foreign tax credits in 2006. that's more than i did. >> bill: he has got it say to the people these criticisms will -- okay for the secretary of state by isn't it okay for me. >> bill: you said something very interesting. you said that he has pulse ahead in the swing tates last time you said he wasn't. >> i said just the opposite. falling behind. -- that is true i think the polls are rest. i just went through it if you take ohio, florida and virginia, you combine them, the exit polls from the last four elections have a 1 point democratic skew. the polling that has been done in the month of september in those three states has an 8 point democratic skew. >> bill: i know that. >> a 7 point -- >> bill: are you holding to what you said here last week whereas you don't believe these polls, you think that they are consciously -- remember what you said was done deliberately to put the president ahead in a psychological way. are you still holding to that? >> i do. >> bill: if the election were held tomorr
first heed you is say about the kay men islands bill and hillary clinton claim $200,000 of foreign tax credits in 2006. that's more than i did. >> bill: he has got it say to the people these criticisms will -- okay for the secretary of state by isn't it okay for me. >> bill: you said something very interesting. you said that he has pulse ahead in the swing tates last time you said he wasn't. >> i said just the opposite. falling behind. -- that is true i think the polls are...
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jenna: whether it is bill clinton wagging that finger. you can't really do it like him. he has that down. gregg: he has that patented. jenna: or presidential candidate bob dole referring himself this the third person, presidential debates are full of unexpected and quite memorable moments. coming up we'll look at what most voters are likely to take away from tonight's debate. >>> plus a look at who may be responsible for the deadly attack on our consulate in benghazi. why the administration has yet to hunt down any of the top suspects. ally bank. why they're always there to talk. i love you, james. don't you love me? i'm a robot. i know. i know you're a robot! but there's more in you than just circuits and wires! uhhh. (cries) a machine can't give you what a person can. that's why ally has knowledgeable people there for you, night and day. ally bank. your money needs an ally. jenna: well, who is behind the murder of four americans in benghazi including our ambassador to libya? as that question continues to plague this administration and the state department, there are re
jenna: whether it is bill clinton wagging that finger. you can't really do it like him. he has that down. gregg: he has that patented. jenna: or presidential candidate bob dole referring himself this the third person, presidential debates are full of unexpected and quite memorable moments. coming up we'll look at what most voters are likely to take away from tonight's debate. >>> plus a look at who may be responsible for the deadly attack on our consulate in benghazi. why the...
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bill: you have said before that you did not learn enough from hillary clinton during a briefing last week. what do you think is going on here? >> i can't understand their rational. you know, i read a statement that was on another channel that the president of egypt gave an interview and he went right through the whole situation, basically told what happened, it was a preplanned act of terrorism on 9/11, and the fact that the administration was still telling us that it was just a demonstration. bill: why would they do that? >> we are getting close to an election, and all i can think of is that they are just trying to keep the facts unknown until after the election. they are still -- they still have the mentality of treating it like it's a "law & order" issue, rather than a war on terrorism. they have sent the f.b.i. over who had to cool their heels for days before they could even get in there, and i don't know if they are in benghazi yet. but, you know, i heard yesterday about this journal that was found by -- of the ambassador, three days after the attack by a journalist walking thro
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and i don't think, unlike bill clinton, and george w. bush, that this president has the kind of emotional sensitivity that think is required to create some measure of partnership with the israelis even though netanyahu is a difficult guy. on syria, look, let's be clear. we're coming off the two longest wars in american history. the last thing we need is another military adventure that isn't thought through very clearly. on iran, no matter who is president we have got big trouble coming. israelis rightly need to figure out a way to prevent iran from enriching uranium. the question is, whether or not you can do that short of war? and right now, neither barack obama nor mitt romney, nor benjamin netanyahu have answers to that. so --. >> brought us through some very important regions in the middle east and it is such a big topic, i would like to drill down and return to one of the things you pointed out. the difference between being smart and stupid when it comes to foreign policy let's talk about priorities especially now in this election s
and i don't think, unlike bill clinton, and george w. bush, that this president has the kind of emotional sensitivity that think is required to create some measure of partnership with the israelis even though netanyahu is a difficult guy. on syria, look, let's be clear. we're coming off the two longest wars in american history. the last thing we need is another military adventure that isn't thought through very clearly. on iran, no matter who is president we have got big trouble coming....
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. >> bill: all right, all right. whatever they're reporting it to be, and poor hillary clinton is running around and doesn't seem to be getting anything under control. we have to think about that. gentlemen, very interesting discussion. next up, factor exclusive. we'll talk to the man who prepped mitt romney for his republican primary debates, right back with that report. >> bill: impact segment, president obama in nevada, mitt romney in colorado. both prepping for the big debate tomorrow night. remember when newt gingrich clocked the governor in the south carolina debate last spring, romney came back strong in florida. the man who helped prepare the governor for those debates, brett o'donnell joins us now. you really know this turf because you worked for john mccain when he ran against barak obama in 2008 and now in the primary season, you worked for mitt romney. let's assess the governor's strengths and weaknesses as a debater first. strengths? >> well, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good ora
. >> bill: all right, all right. whatever they're reporting it to be, and poor hillary clinton is running around and doesn't seem to be getting anything under control. we have to think about that. gentlemen, very interesting discussion. next up, factor exclusive. we'll talk to the man who prepped mitt romney for his republican primary debates, right back with that report. >> bill: impact segment, president obama in nevada, mitt romney in colorado. both prepping for the big debate...
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. >> bill: all right, all right. whatever they're reporting it to be, and poor hillary clinton is running around and doesn't seem to be getting anything under control. we have to think about that. gentlemen, very interesting discussion. next up, factor exclusive. we'll talk to the man who prepped mitt romney for his republican primary debates, ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now
. >> bill: all right, all right. whatever they're reporting it to be, and poor hillary clinton is running around and doesn't seem to be getting anything under control. we have to think about that. gentlemen, very interesting discussion. next up, factor exclusive. we'll talk to the man who prepped mitt romney for his republican primary debates, ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of...
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even clinton wasn't as good as he was in other forums. the president who is a good debater but not a great debater, it's a lot of pressure on him, too. bill: usually they write about the incumbents being insulated by yes people and do not say no to the president. is that true and how does that affect a person? >> they are not used to being pushed around. a critical player on our team is the man who runs fox news. roger ails came in. he was a political strategist before he retired. and he got in the president's face. he calmed him down and told him what he had to do. the first debate we had a rally after the event. reagan needed a crowd to ref him up. we had a big rally before he was revved up and he did an effective job. bill: reagan called ails coach during those times. you work with jack kemp and huckabee. >> he was an extraordinarily talented guy and one of the great thinkers of our party. mike huckabee was perfect. he had great experience on radio. he understood that the quote -- he didn't need much help, but he was very substantive.
even clinton wasn't as good as he was in other forums. the president who is a good debater but not a great debater, it's a lot of pressure on him, too. bill: usually they write about the incumbents being insulated by yes people and do not say no to the president. is that true and how does that affect a person? >> they are not used to being pushed around. a critical player on our team is the man who runs fox news. roger ails came in. he was a political strategist before he retired. and he...
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bill: juan you're squinting when she is talking there. >> giving me a side eye? >> i think she's on target when she says if you ask reporters, are they more likely to be democrats or republicans, they're more likely to be democrats and liberals not any question. the other side of this if you ask owners, ask editors they're more likely to be republican. i think the american people are smart enough to reach conclusions for themselves. i don't think anybody is selling them a bill of goods and bunch of dummies who swallow it whole cloth. i think people are critical consumers of news media, when you ask them about defending obama and attacking romney, that's why you get results in fox poll. when you ask him about fairness is it fair that's when you get the different set of results, you know what, people are getting in some sense what they deserve when they do stupid things. >> like mess up in benghazi. >> the rest, fox poll, the next question was does the american press spend too much time covering silly things. that was overwhelming. people think the press spends too
bill: juan you're squinting when she is talking there. >> giving me a side eye? >> i think she's on target when she says if you ask reporters, are they more likely to be democrats or republicans, they're more likely to be democrats and liberals not any question. the other side of this if you ask owners, ask editors they're more likely to be republican. i think the american people are smart enough to reach conclusions for themselves. i don't think anybody is selling them a bill of...